Keith Sanborn on 28 Sep 2000 00:11:06 -0000 |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> "The Without Response" Verbal 3, Call & Response |
Call with/without response. I've been watching the bleeding of things as they/it comes into contact with institutions for a while now. What struck me about last night's event was that it consistently pointed beyond or outside itself towards what I have experienced as what I might call "the virtual." There is something inherently personal in the interactive experience which in a sense does not belong in a public space. We saw Chinese food being ordered--I had to leave right before it was served up--so even that remained virtual for me and it wouldn't have mattered in a sense. It was the remote control aspect of the event which was half of its interest. The other half was of course the physical meeting together in the same space of people who may have exchanged data on-ine. It was a nice wrap around to the event. And even the McCoys event which took place right then, pointed beyond to something unspeakable, their low-tech but realtime synesthesia being a kind of wry commentary on the mediations which religions try to provide for what should ideally be unmediated and unspeakable. A nice contradiction. The CUCme was almost like a kind of high tech tertulia with a rigorous list of topics, which didn't really need the audience to happen and I think most everyone on this list who was there felt that it was demonstrating something that most people there had already experienced in one form or another. Another way of putting this might be: for whom was the even intended? the cyber-cognoscenti? if so it was preaching to the converted, if to the art world, was it a class? and why would they want to know these things. What good would it do? Was it to re-establish the Kitchen in its tradition role as mediator to the culture of techno-artistic experimentation? I keep coming back to the virtual Chinese food here, since it was bringing food to the Kitchen, where in etymological prehistory it might have originated, again referring to several past locations which have been displaced to allow us to arrive "there, then." Well, it was awkward and oddly familiar to me I confess since I recognized fragments of a translation I had made appearing in Ricardo and Diane's piece via Yokodoll, who had used the translation already on line to marvellous effect. It was an odd feeling, like hearing voices in my head, but they were words I had written, at least in English, since they were a translation from French and thus referred at once to the context of a critique of corporate strategies, the situs, the Zaptistas, and finally to Napoleon and to myself, not necessarily in that order. Again, even the part which was most intimately familiar referred beyond itself to another order: the Seattle on the screen could only refer to the Events taking place time shifted in Prague. I don't know if the evening was good or bad, but it was an odd exercise in displacement. Perhaps this will always happen in the presence of the virtual, or was this its absence made apprehensible. Keith Sanborn _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold