Patrick May on Tue, 22 Feb 2000 01:26:17 +0100 (CET) |
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<nettime> Re: Guy Van Belle |
> I forwarded all your propoposals to the dictionnaire de l'academie globale >digitale, and they have a board that will decide over the purity of >language, and the appropriate mapping of the mind. Since you are convinced >that a plural form also changes the conceptualisation in ordinary speech, >we will propose a list of words with singular forms but indicating plural >entities, either human and non-human, eatable and non-eatable, from >different languages. Don't be so snide -- can't anyone make a proposal? That said, there should be more backing for the claim that one should recognize the multiple net.cultures intertwined with nettime. How often on nettime do you here about the Free Software Foundation (http://www.fsf.org)? Snicker at Richard Stallman's zealotry, but also consider the political implications of what he proposes. If the New Economy is based entirely on computers, then the freedom of users to acquire and modify software will determine the freedom of individuals and groups to participate and influence this New Economy. Case in point: thing.net (nettime's host), rhizome.org, www.etoy.com, 0100101110101101.ORG, www.jodi.org, and www.hell.com all use open source software (Apache, FreeBSD, Linux; http://www.netcraft.com/whats/). There is an occasional mention of open source, but nettime serves more directly political function: >From the list subscribe email: "<nettime> is not just a mailing list but an effort to formulate an international, networked discourse that neither promotes a dominant euphoria (to sell products) nor continues the cynical pessimism, spread by journalists and intellectuals in the 'old' media who generalize about 'new' media with no clear understanding of their communication aspects." On the other hand, the FSF grew out of Richard Stallman's frustration with not being able to modify proprietary software to his needs. Namely, a printer driver: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html (search for printer in the body of the text) These are certainly 2 seperate cultures, with a large gap between the aspirations of majordomo and a programmer's annoyance at a printer driver. However, the programmer's annoyance at has grown into something which has given a huge number of people, nettime included, the opportunity to organize and distribute their ideas internationally without paying $1000+ for an Micro$oft license. Furthermore, besides these two cultures which interact vertically, there is a sprawl of other cultures horizontal to nettime on the net -- every thing else that a person would want to talk with another person. Just because these two groups (the programers and the activists) are working together right now in no way guarantees their future cooperation. If open source software dies out, then where will organizations such as nettime get the tools they need to stay in business? Where will anybody else who wishes to host his / her own server get the tools to do so? Florian Cramer makes an important point. Lumping all these groups together hides the delicate connections of circumstance that have created the opportunities of the internet. Lumping these groups together also ignores the identities of these various groups, preventing any larger organizing effort from happening. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net