Phil Graham on 25 Aug 2000 00:25:12 -0000 |
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Re: <nettime> The New Culture? The New Economy! |
At 05:05 PM 23/08/00 -0400, richard barbrook wrote: >Bollocks. What I always point out is that the hi-tech gift economy is >precisely that: an *economy*. No it isn't. It's a particular mode of exchange related in complex ways to any number of economies, just like barter- and money-based exchanges. Production, for example, is not included. You can't call something an economy that doesn't take production (and a whole lot of other stuff) into account. In essence, to call the exchange of gifts an economy is qualitatively no different than vulgar monetarist econometricians who see flows of money as identical with "the economy". Both views focus on modes of exchange alone and ignore all the other material and historical relations that make exchanges possible. Phil # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net