Robbin Neal Murphy on 28 Sep 2000 20:53:35 -0000 |
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Re: <nettime> "The Without Response" Verbal 3, Call & Response |
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Keith Sanborn wrote: > Another way of putting this might be: for whom was the even > intended? the cyber-cognoscenti? if so it was preaching to the converted, > if to the art world, was it a class? and why would they want to know these > things. What good would it do? Was it to re-establish the Kitchen in its > tradition role as mediator to the culture of techno-artistic > experimentation? At one point we thought the audience would be the same group of friends who always show up at these things, and maybe it was, I couldn't tell. I saw it as a kind of "bookend" to PORT MIT in 97 and a final closure so we could get on with things. So, in a way, it *was* a class meant for the art world. I'm not surprised The Kitchen was disappointed since they assume they are calling the shots, like most art institutions these days. It is a bargaining chip in the future negotiations that will go on between artists and art institutions about what constitutes "digital art" (or whatever we call it). Whatever it was it was definitely NOT the Webbies. That said, I'm not even sure we should bother with art institutions any way. We've already shown that we'll keep developing our practice without their attention. But I do think they have the obligation to support or at least facilitate artists. Otherwise, they're just mortuaries, or worse, clubhouses for a small group determining cultural policy for everyone else. What was most significant about the event wasn't the event itself but how it came to be done through what has ended up being called "the Upgrade meetings" also instigated by by Yael Kanarek. Most of us have been meeting casually once a month to talk and show each other what we're doing with no art administrators allowed. Call & Response was a larger version of those meetings in some ways. So maybe the audience was still each other in some respects and the whole thing was a lesson in self gratification. Maybe not. We'll see what happens next. Rob Robbin Murphy robbin.murphy@nyu.edu http://artnetweb.com/iola/ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net