Curt Hagenlocher on 2 Dec 2000 17:15:28 -0000 |
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>From today's (print) Wall Street Journal: BRUSSELS -- European Justice Ministers signed off on a controversial law that subjects anyone selling goods or services on the Internet to the laws of each of the European Union's 15 member states -- a move some fear will discourage dot-coms from doing business in the EU. The decision concerns the so-called Brussels Regulation, which sets rules on where disputes between consumers and busi- nesses located in different countries should be settled. The text adopted yesterday -- which essentially updates existing law to take account of electronic commerce -- would allow European consumers who order goods or services from a non-EU business over the Internet to sue the vendor in their own national courts. The European Commission welcomed the decision -- which finalizes the law, to take effect in March -- saying it will protect the rights of online consumers. "It is a regulation that we need," said Leonello Gabrici, a commission spokesman. But Mike Pullen, a British lawyer who lobbied for a less- restrictive law, said the regulation will have a chilling effect on the development of electronic commerce in Europe and prompt some online retailers to avoid consumers in some EU countries. He cited as an omen of troubles ahead a French judge's recent decision to order Yahoo! Inc., Santa Clara, Calif., to prevent users of its Web portal residing in France from viewing Nazi material on Yahoo's site. While the French case is among the first in which a court has claimed jurisdiction over a foreign Web-site operator, Mr. Pullen said it foreshadows "exactly what will happen" under the Brussels Regulation. That's because the Brussels Regulation would allow EU citizens to invoke local laws that run contrary to the laws of the country in which the business is incorporated -- unless the business refuses to deal with the consumer. "You're going to start seeing disclaimers like they have in the United States," warned Mr. Pullen. "If I [am operating a business in France and] don't like certain aspects of Greek consumer law, I'm going to say we don't trade into Greece." Consumer groups were also unhappy with yesterday's deci- sion, but for different reasons. "It's not as specific as we'd like it to be," said Machiel van der Velde, a lobbyist for the European Consumers' Organization, which wants consumers to enjoy the same protections in cross-border transactions that they enjoy when shipping locally in a conventional, off-line environ- ment. The regulation stops short of applying a blanket extension of national law beyond national borders. A consumer in Germany, for example, can't sue a foreign Web-site operator simply for offering 2-for-1 deals or steep discounts -- advertisements that are illegal in Germany. A contract must actually be concluded before the German could sue the foreign business in German courts. -- Some ideas: 1. In asserting national sovereignty over the wants of multi- and metanational corporations, these rulings go against the spirit of the WTO, which I'm sure many will see as welcome. 2. On the other hand, the Internet is an environment not controlled or represented by any single corporation that simply does not see international boundaries. 3. The combination of government and business poses a much greater threat to personal privacy than either force alone. Governments are, at least today, somewhat reluctant to gather a lot of personal information about their citizenry. But by passing laws that encourage or require businesses to gather this sort of data, government has ensured that it is a mere subpoena away (if even that). 4. The only way to prevent a Frenchman from downloading "Nazi" information, or an Alabaman from downloading pictures of sodomy, or an Iranian from downloading a copy of "Satanic Verses" or someone in China from accessing information which is critical of the government in Beijing, or for someone to download a movie for which Jack Valenti hasn't been paid is to rearchitect the relevant parts of the Internet. If the locale of the user is sent with each http request in a secure manner, for instance, then this becomes possible. 5. For the government of France to enforce French laws on a company which is not doing business in France -- say, for example, that Yahoo did not have a French subsidiary -- would be more difficult. There would have to be treaties, or reciprocal agreements with other countries, to enable this. To a certain extent, this is already happening on the matter of international computer "crime". 6. If the citizens of France feel strongly enough that their fellows should be prevented from accessing Nazi information over the Internet, then they will probably not object to giving up some of their privacy to prevent this. Neither would they be opposed to creating a structure or engaging in reciprocal agreements that also prevents residents of Kentucky from downloading pictures of bestiality from French sites. 7. I certainly don't mean to pick on France in this regard. The US government has been a trailblazer in asserting the power of its national courts in international situations. American troops entered Panama on the basis of a US court indiciting Manuel Noriega for drug smuggling. More recently, an American court found that the country of Iran was liable for the ordeal of US hostages in Lebanon, and imposed a judgement of several million dollars against that country. More ominously, the US government accepted the judgement on behalf of the government of Iran, with the expectation that it would recover the funds from Iranian assets frozen in the United States. In conjunction with the Panama action, this leaves open the possibility that, in the future, American troops might be used to collect on fines imposed on foreign entities in US courts. (Of course, some would say that the US and its military have frequently engaged in just this sort of "collection" activity on behalf of American corporations in the past.) 8. Internationalism has always been a bogeyman of the right. Now that corporate globalization and cultural imperialism have succeeded in creating a contemptible variant of internationalism, it's not in very good odor on the left, either. The Internet is the most noncommercial transnational *thing* we have, and it would be a shame for national borders to become a permanent feature of the Internet landscape. -- Curt Hagenlocher curth@motek.com # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net