<nettime> Censorship in its most pernicious goofy form

Nmherman on Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:48:23 +0200 (CEST)

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Subj:    [Fwd: FLUXLIST: The St. Auby Tamas' tests and proposal to which Eric 
 Andersonreferred?]
Date:   7/10/2001 11:51:01 AM Central Daylight Time
From:   one38@one38.org (Eryk Salvaggio)
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This is interesting.

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Subject: FLUXLIST: The St. Auby Tamas' tests and proposal to which Eric 
Anderson
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Fluxlisters,

I have attempted to reconstruct the entire thread of emails that St. Auby 
Tamas submitted to Fluxlist to which I believe Eric Anderson refers (and is 
copied below at the end of the string of Tamas emails).

An inquiry from Tamas about "who is the moderator of Fluxlist" led to an 
off-list reply from Sol Nte (reported on by Tamas in the second email 
below).  In his reply, Nte informed Tamas that any email message submitted 
to FLUXLIST that contains the words " G e n i u s  2 0 0 0" gets 
automatically blocked by our list-serv software.  Tamas then inquires "Who 
did ban it?" and "Why the Fluxlisters are not useing
the tiptop tool of the net for Direct Democratic voting?"  I believes this 
second question is what Anderson is calling a proposal.

In a series of 6 emails Tamas then tests the software by successfully 
submitting variations of the blocked phrase.  [If this email message gets 
through then I want " G e n i u s  2 0 0 0 " to be credited as test #7.]

Finally, Anderson responds saying "Great tests and proposal for maillist."

Then Owen Smith responded by saying he "seemed to have missed the original 
reference - what was the proposal??"

Some confusion has ensued.

Allen B




>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:23:26 +0200
>From: "St.Auby Tamas" <iput@c3.hu>
>To: <FLUXLIST@scribble.com>
>Subject: FLUXLIST: moderator
>
>
>High!
>
>IPUT would like to know
>who is the moderator of the Fluxlist.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Hugh!
>
>aa




>Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 12:44:14 +0200
>From: "St.Auby Tamas" <iput@c3.hu>
>To: <FLUXLIST@scribble.com>
>Subject: FLUXLIST: tests
>
>
>High, dear Fluxlisters!
>
>After sending by IPUT
>The Never Arriving Emil to the
>private emil-address of 69 FLuxlisters,
>on Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Sol Nte wrote
>to IPUT's private emil-address:
>
> > (...)
> > The only moderation done on a daily basis
> > is by the majordomo software.
> > The post I got from you mentioned "xxxxxx xxxx",
> > if you sent that to the list
> > it won't have got through because
> > if you remember we had to stop Max
> > spamming the list with way too much
> > "xxxxxx xxxx" stuff back in 1999.
> > (...)
>
>The "xxxxxx xxxx" = banned text on the Fluxlist.
>
>Who did ban it?
>
>Why the Fluxlisters are not useing
>the tiptop tool of the net
>for Direct Democratic voting?
>
>Hugh!
>
>aa



Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 12:44:34 +0200
From: "St.Auby Tamas" <iput@c3.hu>
To: <FLUXLIST@scribble.com>
Subject: FLUXLIST: test 1
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High!

Genius

Hugh!

aa




To: <FLUXLIST@scribble.com>
Subject: FLUXLIST: test 2

High!

2000

Hugh!

aa




To: <FLUXLIST@scribble.com>
Subject: FLUXLIST: test 3

High!

enius 2000

Hugh!

aa




To: <FLUXLIST@scribble.com>
Subject: FLUXLIST: test 4

High!

Genius 000

Hugh!

aa



To: <FLUXLIST@scribble.com>
Subject: FLUXLIST: test 5


High!

Penius 2000

Hugh!

aa



To: <FLUXLIST@scribble.com>
Subject: FLUXLIST: test 6


High!

Genius 2001

Hugh!

aa






>Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 20:46:46 +0200
>From: Eric Andersen <ericandersen@attglobal.net>
>To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: tests
>
>
>Dear Tamas,
>
>Great tests and proposal for maillist. Finally some spirit on the list.
>It is interesting to see how silent everybody becomes, when your voice
>is heard.
>
>You seem to scare the mice.
>
>All the bests,
>Eric




>Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 09:46:29 -0400
>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: tests
>To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com, ericandersen@attglobal.net
>From: "Owen Smith" <Owen_Smith@umit.maine.edu>
>
>FLUXLIST@scribble.com writes:
> >Dear Tamas,
> >
> >Great tests and proposal for maillist. Finally some spirit on the list.
> >It is interesting to see how silent everybody becomes, when your voice
> >is heard.
> >
> >You seem to scare the mice.
> >
> >All the bests,
> >Eric
> >
>
>Eric and/or Tamas - Somehow I seemed to have missed the original reference
>- what was the proposal??
>
>Owen




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