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from the following comment on the gutnick case: [T]he High Court's decision does provide impetus for ratification of a multilateral treaty to provide a single regime for resolving jurisdiction issues in cross border contexts. Indeed, to go further and have a global code in areas of particular intractability, such as potential defamation. the assumption being that a unified regime will solve the 'problem' of transjurisdictional defamation. it'd definitely minimize or eliminate the jurisdictional issues; but the origin of the complaint, and hence the issue at hand it seems, is defamation -- which such a regime defi- nitely *wouldn't* 'solve.' and so it goes. cheers, t ----- Forwarded From: James Love <james.love@cptech.org> To: random-bits <random-bits@lists.essential.org>, ecommerce <ecommerce@lists.essential.org> Subject: [Random-bits] Deacons perspective on Gutnick defamation case Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:56:58 -0500 For those looking for a different perspective on the Gutnick defamation case, see below. Also, we note that the Hague Convention on Jurisdiction delegates have been aware of this case for a while, and it played an important role in the decision by the United States to propose removing speech torts from the convention. Jamie -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FW: Media release Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:18:32 +1100 From: Gamertsfelder, Leif(Sydney) <leif.gamertsfelder@deacons.com.au> To: James Love (E-mail) <love@cptech.org> Here is one perspective on the Gutnick defamation case Regards Leif Date: 13 December 2002 Issued by: Lois Jones Title: Gutnick criticism misplaced 'The High Court's decision to allow Joseph Gutnick to commence defamation proceedings against Dow Jones in a Victorian court for material uploaded in the US was completely predictable', says Australian-based Leif Gamertsfelder a leading e-commerce law specialist with law firm Deacons. Criticism of the High Court's decision is completely at odds with the manner in which defamation law has been applied in time immemorial and with common sense. Defamation can only occur where defamatory material is heard or read, in this case at the human browser interface, and not at the point of upload. A web server cannot comprehend an individual's reputation and it makes abundant sense to find that defamation occurs where a person that comprehends the concept of reputation actually hears or reads defamatory material. In the Gutnick decision the High Court did no more than affirm a well-established legal principle in a context which begged the court to hand down the decision it did. Realistically the result of the appeal should never have been in doubt. This is not to say that the appeal decision did not confirm the existence of problems that have long been identified. Widely distributed print publications have raised similar issues in cross border contexts for many years. The Gutnick decision applies established law to a set of facts that is easily aligned with precedent. It is not the High Court's role to solve these problems. However, the High Court's decision does provide impetus for ratification of a multilateral treaty to provide a single regime for resolving jurisdiction issues in cross border contexts. Indeed, to go further and have a global code in areas of particular intractability, such as potential defamation. '/2 To this end, many governments around the world have been negotiating the Draft Hague Convention on Jurisdiction and Foreign Judgments in Civil and Commercial Matters. The intent of the Draft Convention is to provide certainty regarding the jurisdiction of courts to hear cases with an international dimension, including defamation cases. It is the conclusion of this treaty that should provide a workable global solution to a global problem, but recognising that this still leaves the problem of structuring for favourable jurisdiction, and the substantial differences in laws of various countries on a variety of subject matter. It is not the responsibility of the High Court of Australia to solve the unique global problems spawned by the use of the Internet. Further, the implied 'solution' would be for the High Court to abstain from applying current law: the very thing societies governed by the rule of law must ensure courts actually do. If it were otherwise, we may find ourselves in situation where courts frequently abstain from applying the law merely because the relevant act occurred over the Internet. This clearly would be an undesirable outcome. The Gutnick decision reflects a continuing trend where courts are more readily exercising jurisdiction in Internet cases generally, not just those limited to questions of jurisdiction. These decisions demonstrate that courts will be reluctant to abdicate their responsibilities merely due to the fact that the Internet is implicated in a proceeding. The clear message to come out of these decisions is that governments around the world need to increase their efforts to finalise the Draft Hague Convention to provide a unified approach and commercial certainty. In the interim publishers should implement contractual and technological measures to manage risk in this context. ENDS For further information: Lois Jones National Communications Manager Deacons Direct: +61 (0)2 9930 8232 Mobile: +61 (0)414 452 233 Email: lois.jones@deacons.com.au _______________________________________________ Random-bits mailing list Random-bits@lists.essential.org http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/random-bits ----- Backwarded # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net