Lachlan Brown on Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:30:42 +0100 (CET) |
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<nettime> [The Thing is On Message] Know your Rights, know the Law |
Too bad about The Thing being booted from the Internet for carrying subversive ideas and irritating people and that. I hate this sort of thing not that I have any experience of it myself of course. I note Undercurrents (are the cats becoming rats and deserting the ship?) are already casting about for an alternative list provider, like AS IF! Have coalitionary politics completely bitten the dust? Hows about making a stand ppl? Has New York City completely lost the plot? Legally speaking Verio are quite wrong to put The Thing under threat or sanction for use or content. Verio provide a utility (like the phone company, like the electricity company, like the gas company) they are not responsible for content or use. The Thing as a legal entity is legally responsible for content at The Thing. The Directors personally liable for use and content as carriers at the Thing. The legalities are quite interesting. Verio can pull the service IF the terms of use are breached but threatening to pull the service under legal threat from Dow...? Legally fraught for Verio in two instances: Verio has put itself at risk of suit from The Thing and Dow at the same time. From The Thing because to suggest this sanction is unreasonable and in any case could only be acheived through an order of a Civil Court with respect to a breach of terms and conditions. Verio has put itself at risk of suit from Dow because Verio seems to suggest to Dow that it has more legal responsibility over alternative media and communications than it actually does, and could be seen to be misleading Dow in this respect. Surely in addition arn't the fourth and fifth ammendments of the US constitution compromised here? Let Dow take its complaint to The Thing, not apply undue pressure upon Verio, a utility provider. It's like one business competitor levering power over another business competitor by pressuring a third company, the Water company or the Gas company to bring about a sanction to hinder a newspaper business production and distribution. It's simply not on. The Thing is On Message, it is fulfilling its published mandate. Its publications are in the interests of the public as well as fulfilling The Things contract with its membership. Dow is wholly out of order, and Verio is mistaken in the extent of its powers and responsibilities. The threat of sanction on Feb 28th is unsound, unwise and unlikely to be successful. Lachlan Brown Toronto (416) 666 1452 -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net