mez breeze on Wed, 18 Aug 2004 05:36:32 +0200 (CEST) |
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<nettime> Re: what is going on, on nettime? |
Ana Buigues wrote: >> Also see: Josephine Bosma, "Text for Moscow: Between moderation and extremes. The tensions between net art theory and popular art discourse," Switch v6 n1 >> ....just wanted 2 wade in with comments re: my take on moderator actions/interventions on nettime. i'll be *highly* [and pleasantly surprised] if this makes it onto the list. 1stly, i'd like 2 say Alan Sondheim's initial post [referenced by Ana] has also been in direct relation 2 moderator intervention[s] that have been occurring on the empyre mailing list [amazing wot happens in the undercurrents and flows of mailing list forums!:)] these type of actions encountered both on nettime and empyre can be somewot generalised 2 the current state of moderated email lists devoted 2 the examination or perpetuation of net[.wurked] art. overt moderator actions/interjections effect the interests of every participant in these type of [+ - i'd contest - multiple others] email communities. activities surrounding the moderation of these lists should provoke the examination of larger issues centred around power stratification + control-assertion thru discourse dominance, censorship + implied silencing of positions/opinions that lie outside acceptable mainstreamic discourse treatments ...questions relating 2 communication diversification + acknowledgement of minority perspectives + seeking 2 hi_light power perspectives that often deliberately mask agendas is also relevant in terms of adequately maintaining a forum in which a community_based orientation is prevalent.... the nettime moderators have performed x.tensive moderator intervention that illustrates that the list [+ the intention of the list] has morphed markedly from its initial manifestation....originally, nettime encouraged collaborative net.art efforts [see the 95-98 archives] but now has shifted itself 2wards projecting a streamlined-info-vehicle that offers rationalist perspectives...similar 2 the right-wing global shift in co-opting + gloss-covering any media/dialogue that display experimental presentations or adheres to "other" discourse metho[ology]ds... i find this type of morphing very questionable in terms of nettime's stated sig file aim: "<nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets" ...the latent nettime agenda nowadays seems biased 2wards a stilling approach, whereby any non-regular opinions [ie that that don't fit the typical reply/response/debate/argument syndrome that heavily institutionalised mailing lists labour under] r excluded. this exclusion appears 2 b enforced sporadically - if not whimsically + seemingly in accordance with moderators personal perspectives + opinions [i c it as deliberate bias 2wards/against certain subscriber postings]. 4 those of us who initially enjoyed the benefits of an open-ended approach 2 info-presentation on the nettime list [+ who helped 2 actively shape the nettime list ethos + the net.art genre itself] it is extremely sad 2 witness the now entrenched mono-forcing of multilogues in2 such exacting expressions + deliberate censorship of anything that the list both encouraged + celebrated previously [+ n.deed, on which it constructed its reputation]. in seeking 2 hi-lite this situation [via suggesting alan post this 2 several lists] my intention was 2 encourage an open-ended discussion of nettimes stated goals, either regarding its original aims or even a potential partial reinstatement of them via list practice *or* offer a potential info-source + example via which other mailing lists may learn + possibly avoid the same entrenched [+ perhaps unconscious] bias formations. ][mez][ - pro][rating][.lucid.txt - - http://www.hotkey.net.au/~netwurker _ _men[iscus_heart] plucking via broken bag.ga[u]ges_ _________________________________________________________________ In the market for a car? Buy, sell or browse at CarPoint: http://server-au.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/b?cg=link&ci=ninemsn&tu=http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au?refid=hotmail_tagline # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net