nick knouf on Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:02:22 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Brain fingerprinting |
On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:21 AM, twsherma@mailbox.syr.edu wrote: > Here's how it works. A criminal suspect or a terrorist is shown > pictures of the scene of a crime or a terrorist training site. The > suspect's brain waves are monitored, looking for brain waves of > recognition, signs in the suspect's memory that links the suspect > to the scene of a crime or terrorist activity. These brain waves of > recognition are called P300 waves. The suspect may deny any > involvement, but a real-time analysis of his or her brain waves may > conclusively establish prior criminal activity. Previously > undetectable memories determine guilt. As someone who has designed, run, and analyzed a number of EEG, MEG, and fMRI experiments in the past, I can say that this is still far off as an everyday device. There are a number of practical and conceptual problems involved. Oftentimes the journalistic accounts gloss over the difficulties, which are many. Yet I think it's still important to be concerned and develop appropriate responses and procedures for using any type of "lie detector". But onto some of the issues. First, getting a reliable result within a single subject is extremely difficult for these types of measurements. The data are so "noisy" (physical noise from the measurement device, as well as physiological "noise" that we may someday find out holds interesting data) that results must be averaged across many subjects before stable peaks can be found. However, it can be done in some cases and for some stimuli in single subjects: if you want to get reasonable results from only a single subject, you must present him/her with a large number of trials--- anywhere from 150-200 trials per condition (in EEG/MEG) and around 100 (in fMRI) (this is all based on my experience and with the analysis tools I've used). Second, we still do not know enough about the underlying mechanisms of memory to know how, in the case of EEG or MEG, the signals we measure are related to the underlying mental processes of memory and recognition. All we have here (and with fMRI) is a correlative measure; none of these techniques can establish causation. Perhaps the correlation is enough for a court of law; I don't know enough about legal standards of evidence to know for sure. Thirdly, all of the techniques require a willing subject to remain still for anywhere between one and two hours. It's possible to sedate a subject, however the sedation process will affect the results measured to an uncertain degree. Also, with fMRI (and somewhat so for MEG, but for different reasons), you cannot scan people who have certain types of metal in their bodies, suggesting a possible (if invasive) countermeasure. Finally (for now), there are still open questions as to the best way to analyze the data. For example, with fMRI data there are a number of tactics to use: you can morph the data for each subject into a standard template, allowing direct averaging across subjects; you can "localize" areas in individual subjects, and then average the results across the localized areas; you can map the data into an agnostic "spherical" space to again allow averaging across subjects; and so on. Besides these spatial issues, there is also certain disagreement as to the signal and statistical analysis techniques to use, both in fMRI and EEG/MEG. Some journalistic articles: http://www.reason.com/rb/rb111401.shtml http://neuroethics.stanford.edu/documents/HankArticleStanfordReport.pdf Some articles from scientific journals (I have not read these articles to know if I agree with their methodology): http://www.hubmed.org/display.cgi?uids=11835606 http://www.hubmed.org/display.cgi?uids=16161128 http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10% 2E1371%2Fjournal%2Epbio%2E0020150 http://www.hubmed.org/display.cgi?uids=11588589 Cheers, nick knouf # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net