Danny Butt on Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:52:46 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Gender and You |
Let's try this another way. Alan, you forwarded a piece called "Gender and You" to an overwhelmingly male list. If you're that interested in gender, maybe you'd familiarise yourself with a few decades of feminist philosophy and criticism (empirically the largest body of work on gender issues) and try and make a contribution to that field, or even acknowledge that it exists. Instead, you want to have a conversation with a bunch of guys about how you identify with "your female characters", and this helps you work through your relationship with Heidegger. You don't have to be Eve Sedgwick to see that one side of the gender divide isn't getting a lot of airtime here. Then, when a woman says as much, you refuse to admit there could be a problem, proving Kali's point. Then you take the very mention of minstrelsy - a completely apt description which is well known in the literature on online identity - to suggest that you've been painted to be a member of the KKK. It's pathetic. You're accusing Kali of essentialism when she can discuss with great detail her experience working with African American people, and changing the way she behaves in response to critique from people who might know something about the issues from their lived experience. In other words, she's specifically saying that if you focus on real conversation with respect, you can build relationships across difference. If you were prepared to do the same, your textual efforts might be better placed to make a difference to the gender dynamics of the list, which would be a hell of a relief. x.d -- http://www.dannybutt.net # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net