Jaromil on Wed, 9 Nov 2011 13:02:16 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Friedrich Kittler |
hi Florian, On Sat, 29 Oct 2011, Florian Cramer wrote: > In the humanities, the intellectual provocation of new technology - > and techno-determinism - has worn off. At least in an environment > like Nettime, I do not see many people left who would seriously > dispute the social/political/economical/cultural constructedness of, > and agency in, media and technology. This is why I think that, > pragmatically, his greatest legacy and impact on media studies and > media criticism will be the hacker legacy: his insistence that one > needs to have technical understanding of the systems one analyzes > and criticizes. In a world where scholars identify with terms like > "digital humanities", apparently without knowing more than the > colloquial meaning of 'digital', this remains a painfully important > message. painful, well said. You gave yourself an answer then, why people here prefers to remember him just for the "personality and intellectual style"? so they can keep on sanctifying their position in the "digital humanities" as illiterates who sat in the intellectual salon. <g> I had nothing to do personally with Kittler, but knowing the enthusiasm of some of his students I guess he must have been an inspiring teacher. One time at transmediale I've had the honor of disagreeing with him, or better with a panel he was in, about the interpretation they gave of free and open source software. I kind of recall I was sitting just besides you. Nevertheless I guess he should be placed "up there" for a genealogy of media studies (genealogy in Foucaultian terms, that is for us a less superficial alternative to the Manovich encyclopedia) together with Flusser and ... Foucault, indeed. ciao -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org