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Martha: Living "outside" the LAW means DROPPING *out* of the "system" of WAGE-SLAVERY -- which is the basis of going to college (where little productive is learned) in order to get your "ticket" to the RAT RACE. Why do you need a college degree other than satisfying the "rules" put in place by the FACTORY where you are planning to go become another SLAVE? The college-loan debt burden you take on is just another bill you are expected to pay, along with the credit-card and mortgage debts -- bills that *require* you to have a JOB in the "system" . . . as a *slave*!! Being "honest" (which is the more important part of the lyric) means being an INTELLIGENT and MORAL person, which are both needed to be PRODUCTIVE -- for yourself and the people who matter to you. As many have pointed out, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Marc Zuckerberg do NOT have college degrees -- not that I'd wish their lives on any of the "innocent" people on this list. Did Gates, Jobs and Zuckerberg accomplish what they did by being "honest"? For the first two, which I happen to know personally, the answer is no, they did not. And, from what I've heard, neither has Marc. Why did these people "lie, cheat and steal" to get to their exalted positions? At the risk of sounding naive, the answer is because they JOINED the SYSTEM! You want to lead a GOOD life where you don't need to SCREW your friends? Then JUST DO IT -- but understand that you'll have to "live outside the law" (of wage-slavery)!! I've been called a "Futurist" by Forbes magazine (and a few others) -- which qualifies me to say something simple . . . the FUTURE has already happened. If you really imagine that it is worth your time to push for "radical change to the system we all live under," then you are living in the PAST. No one has ever accomplished this and EVERYONE who is *honest* knows that. The FUTURE (which is now) is already taking place and it is *not* DEMANDING that the *system* change but instead building an alternative -- one *productive* life at a time. (Will someone please cue-up the *rant* from Peter Lamborn Wilson, who I first met in Ljubljana at the last-ever nettime "conference," about all the RADICALS who just talk and never actually BUILD anything! <g>) Start a COOP. Build a GUILD. Help somebody. Help yourself. Get a LIFE -- which, as my business partner Douglas Rushkoff says, doesn't involve the INCORPORATED -- perhaps why his system-explaining book "Life, Inc." was a "best-seller" in Zuccotti Park. Mark Stahlman Brooklyn NY In a message dated 11/22/2011 9:50:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, navva@earthlink.net writes: whose law, whose rules? cheers, martha sometimes of broolyn On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:50 PM, _Newmedia@aol.com_ (mailto:Newmedia@aol.com) wrote: # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org