Tjebbe van Tijen on Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:53:01 +0100 (CET) |
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<nettime> [Fwd] A Spit in the Ocean (or the limits of social network paranoia) |
Last sentence of a message on which I am reacting just to get the gist of it: >> I won't participate anymore in so-called social media that don't >> proceed from actual communities nor nourish them. Facebook and >> Google+ nourish like baby milk: with poison inside. Stop smoking >> before cancer strikes. I used to live in a house that was on the address list of the Underground Press Service: Keizersstraat 2A, in Amsterdam. Both the house and my friend doing the "underground" paper - Steef Davidson are not there anymore. "Cultural underground would have been a better word" as there is little underground when you receive heaps of radical newspapers from all over the world. Years later I found our address in a CIA document that was half public: "open sources" is the word. Our telephone in that house was also a special case, as it was the head quarter of a few action groups, all this in the period 1969-1975. A telephone was not a common thing for activists like us with little money. So the bill was not paid once and still the telephone kept functioning. We were listened to we concluded and adapted our speech a bit. In the early seventies we developed a system called 'telephone snowball', a distributed quick mobilising system, whereby there were lists with telephone numbers distributed in a systematic way which allowed us to mobilise a small crowd within an hour. There was no internet of sorts at that time... And as such activist communication and exchange systems grew, one knew that among the contacts were people with say double identities and sometimes even plain spies. As our "underground" system needed not really to be underground, we did not care too much about it. It was package and deal of making a crowd. We developed a happy community with the slogan: public conspiracy. Secret, hidden cell like structures were also practiced in those days, we thought it was dangerous romanticism. The rather young Dutch maoists groups of that time had a tendency to organise themselves in such ways. A while ago I bumped into an archive left at the International Institute of Social History, with packs of handwritten mostly internal documents of such a group mostly made up of students. The more secret they got, the more problems arose. Individuals being expelled. Threats and the like. Most people involved in such secracy will may have concluded later the futility of their secret activism. Of course it is a luxury to be able to say or think so... but by refusing to get trapped in secret organisations and all what comes with it, one may be more effective after all. The social and private are deeply intertwined. Whatever information flow system in the history of mankind, it has had both its advantages and the opposite. The ways of control of communication systems and the ways to evade control are in constant oscillation: liberating/recuperating... Will something like Diaspora be an alternative for Facebook? Yes maybe in the short run, but when something gets replicated so many times millionfold, what was liberating in it will have evaporated in that process. It could even be so, that mainstream social networks give more freedom than cyber-undergournd connectivity. Just by the mere protective mass of the global ones. The message I am reacting on seems to me very romantic and very naive and also untrue in the sense that when you are against a global big firm communication system and want to construct something of an order order, an outsider system, the last thing you should do is announce it here, on the dwindling list, that once was full of discussion and now mostly contains one way announcement (I also use it for that I confess).. The quest for purity in community and with that in its communication systems, sounds like the manifestos for setting up 'intentional communities' of the sixties and seventies of last century, with their attempt to isolate themselves from society as it was. One can deny a try to nobody, but I doubt that such an attitude will have the wished effect. Paranoia is a bad basis for producing any social change. tjebbe # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org