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Aesthetics of Dispersed Attention Interview with German Media Theorist Petra L=F6ffler By Geert Lovink When I met Petra L=F6ffler in the summer of 2012 in Weimar I was amazed = to find out about her habilitation topic. She had just finished a study = on the history of distraction from a German media theory perspective. = After I read the manuscript (in German) we decided to do an email = interview in English so that more people could find out about her = research. The study will appear late 2013 (in German) with Diaphanes = Verlag under the title =93Verteilte Aufmerksamkeit. Eine = Mediengeschichte der Zerstreuung=94 (Distributed Attention, a Media = History of Distraction). Since October 2011 Petra L=F6ffler has replaced = Lorenz Engell as media philosophy professor at Bauhaus University in = Weimar. Before this appointment she worked in Regensburg, Vienna and = Siegen. Her main research areas are affect theory, media archaeology, = early cinema, visual culture and digital archives.=20 With the hyper growth of internet, video, mobile phones, games, txt = messaging, the new media debate gets narrowed down to this one question: = what do you think of attention? The supposed decline in concentration = and today=92s inability to read longer, complicated texts is starting to = affect the future of research as such. Social media only make things = worse. Human kind is, once again, on the way down hill, this time busy = multitasking on their smart phones. Like any issue this one must have a = genealogy too, but if we look at the current literature, from Bernard = Stiegler to Nicolas Carr and Frank Schirrmacher, from Sherry Turkle to = Franco Berardi, and Andrew Keen to Jaron Lanier, including my own = contribution, the long view is entirely missing. Bernard Stiegler digs = into Greek philosophy, yes, but also leaves out the historical media = theory angle. This also counts for those who stress solutions such as = training and abstinence (a field ranging from Peter Sloterdijk to Howard = Rheingold). But can a contemporary critique of attention really do = without proper historical foundations? While the education sector and the IT industry promote the use of = tablets in classrooms (with MOOCs as the most current hype), there is = only a hand full of experts that warn against the long-term = consequences. The absence of a serious discussion and policy then gives = way to a range of popular myths. Quickly the debate gets polarized and = any unease is reduced to generational issues and technophobia. Deceases = amongst millions of computer workers vary from damaged eyesight, ADHD = and related medication problems (Retalin), Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, RSI = and bad postures due to badly designed peripherals, leading to = widespread spinal disk problems. There is talk of mutations in the brain = (see for instance the work of the German psychiatrist Manfred Spitzer). = Within this worrying spread of postmodern deceases, who would talk about = the =91healing effects of daydreaming=92? Petra L=F6ffler does, and she = refers to Michel de Montaigne, who, already many centuries ago, = recommended diversion as a comfort against suffering of the souls. Why = can=92t we acknowledge the distribution of attention as an art form, a = gift, in fact a high skill?=20 Geert Lovink: How did you come up with the idea to write the history of = distraction? When you told me about your work and I read your = habilitation (a major study in German speaking countries after your PhD = if you want to become professor) it occurred to me how obvious this = intellectual undertaken was from a media theory perspective=97and yet I = wondered why it wasn=92t done before. Would you call its history a = classic black spot? You didn=92t go along the institutional knowledge = road a la Foucault, nor do you use the hermeneutical method, the = Latourian history of science approach or mentality history, for that = matter. How did you come up with your angle? Petra L=F6ffler: That=92s a long story. Around 2000, with my colleague = Albert K=FCmmel, I was working at an anthology about ephemeral = discourses dealing with media dating back to the second half of the = nineteenth century. We found a lot of interesting stuff in scientific = journals from very different disciplines. Out of this rich material we = developed a classification system consisting of discourse-relevant terms = we found in the articles, and published a book representing our research = results (Albert K=FCmmel and Petra L=F6ffler, Medientheorie 1888-1933, = Texte und Kommentare, 2002). One of the topics was =91Aufmerksamkeit=92 = (attention). Later I reviewed the material, much of it was unpublished, = and came across a collection of related texts, which focussed on = =91Zerstreuung=92 (distraction). Like you now, I then was wondering why, = in media theory, a conceptualization of distraction was missing up to = date, although important early theoreticians such as Siegfried Kracauer = and Walter Benjamin, in the 1920s and the 1930s, have formulated = powerful concepts of mass entertainment, cinema and the political role = of distraction that were quoted regularly. That=92s why I wanted to know = more about the =91roots=92, the background of their thinking of = distraction in other discourses. Another motivation was that in the tradition of the Frankfurter Schule, = which is very influential until now (not only in Germany), distraction = has a bad reputation. So, I wanted to analyse the schools of knowledge = that support that bad reputation and through this way reveal the =91other=92= side of distraction, its positive meaning and its necessity. For this = project I had to go back to the early reflections on modernity in the = 18th century and to cross very different discourses from philosophy and = pedagogy to psychiatry and physiology to optics and aesthetics. There = was not a single constant discourse, but various discontinuous = propositions that could not easy be summarized into a respectable object = of knowledge. I owe Foucault=92s discourse analysis and archaeology of = knowledge a lot, but for my research object stable systems of = propositions didn=92t exist, and the gaps between discourses were = evident. May be that=92s why, for a long time, distraction seems to be = only an ephemeral side product of discourses on attention=96=96or better = a bastard, that has to be hide. =20 GL: You don=92t seem to be bothered by distraction, is that true? PL: It depends on my temper. I really hate to get up in the middle of = the night by a terrible noise. I guess nobody wants that. But I have = been living in big cities for decades and I accept a certain level of = noise as normal=97just because I also estimate the various leisure time = distractions every metropolis has to offer. Following philosophers like = Kant or psychologists like Ribot I belief that a certain level of = distraction is not only necessary for a life balance, but also a common = state of body and mind.=20 GL: You got a fascinating chapter in your habilitation about early = cinema and the scattering of attention it would be responsible for. The = figure of the nosy parker that gawks interests you and you contrast it = to the street roaming flaneur. PL: Yes, the gawker is a fascinating figure, because according to my = research results it is the corporation of the modern spectator who is = also a member of a mass audience=96=96the flaneur never was part of it. = The gawker or gazer, like the flaneur, appeared at first in the modern = metropolis with its multi-sensorial sensations and attractions. = According to Walter Benjamin the flaneur disappeared at the moment, when = the famous passages were broken down. They had to make room for greater = boulevards that were able to steer the advanced traffic in the French = metropolis. Always being part of the mass of passers-by the gawker looks = at the same time for diversions, for accidents and incidents in the = streets. This is to say his attention is always distracted between an = awareness of what happens on the streets and navigating between people = and vehicles. No wonder movie theatres were often opened at locations = with a high level of traffic inviting passers-by to go inside and, for a = certain period of time, becoming part of an audience. Furthermore many = films of the period of Early Cinema were actualities showing the modern = city-life. In these films the movie-camera was positioned at busy = streets or corners in order to record movements of human and non-human = agents. Gawkers often went into the view of the camera gesticulating or = grimacing in front of it. That=92s why the gawker has become a very = popular figure mirroring the modern mass audience on the screen.=20 Today to view one=92s own face on a screen is an everyday experience. = Not only CCTV-cameras at public spaces record passers-by, often without = their notice. Also popular TV-shows that require life-participation such = as casting shows once more offer members of the audience the opportunity = to see themselves on a screen. At the same time many people post their = portraits on websites of social networks. They want to be seen by others = because they want to be part of a greater audience=96=96the network = community. This is what Jean Baudrillard has called connectivity. The = alliance between the drive to see and to being seen establishes a new = order of seeing which differs significantly from Foucault=92s panoptical = vision: Today no more the few see the many (panopticon) or the many see = the few (popular stars)=96=96today, because of the multiplication and = connectivity of screens in public and private spaces, the many see the = many. Insofar, one can conclude, the gawker or gazer is an = overall-phenomenon, a non-specific subjectivity of a distributed = publicity. =20 GL: In your study you show that, like in so many other instances, the = =91birth=92 of attention as a modern problem, comes up during the late = 18th century. I am joking, but Kant seems the first and the last = philosopher who is praising distraction. What is it with this period = around 1800? You studied at least two centuries of material. Which = period did you think is the most interesting? PL: =46rom the perspective of a media archaeologist I would say, of = course, the period around 1800=96=96just because things look different = from a distance. I was really surprised by regimes of distraction = arising around 1800 in psychiatry, where people suffering from a mental = breakdown were cured with the help of sensual shocks and spectacular = performances. At the same time the need to distribute one=92s attention, = to react on different stimuli almost simultaneously, was more and more = regarded as necessary. This formulation of a distributed or distracted = attention can be considered as an effect of the dynamics of modernity, = its drive to economize every part of living, even the human body. What = we used to declare as phenomena of our time such as multi-tasking can be = already found in discussions about distraction two hundred years ago. So = it seems that changes in our media environments regularly provoke = discussions about regimes of attention and questions the role of = distraction. Today, with the ubiquitous use of information technologies, discussions = about distraction or distributed attention, the balance between stress = and relaxation arises again, and philosophers like Richard Shusterman = again consider the body=92s role for that purpose. For me, Kant=92s = quest for distraction as an art of living is resonated much by such = accounts.=20 GL: I can imagine that debates during the rise of mass education, the = invention of film are different from ours. But is that the case? It is = all pedagogy, so it seems. We never seem to leave the classroom.=20 PL: The question is, leaving where? Entering the other side (likewise = amusement sites or absorbing fantasies)? Why not? Changing perspectives? = Yes, that=92s what we have to do. But for that purpose we don=92t have = to leave the classroom necessarily. Rather, we should rebuilt it as a = room of testing modes of thinking in very concrete ways. I=92m thinking = of Jacques Ranci=E8re=92s suggestions, in his essay Le partage du = sensible, about the power relation between teachers and pupils. Maybe = today teachers can learn more (for instance soft skills) from their = pupils than the other way around. We need other regimes of distribution = of power, also in the classroom, a differentiation of tasks, of = velocities and singularities=97in short: we need micropolitics.=20 More seriously, your question indicates a strong relationship between = pedagogy and media. There=92s a reason why media theorists like = Friedrich Kittler had pointed to media=92s affinity to propaganda and = institutions of power. I think of his important book Discourse Networks, = where he has revealed the relevance of mediated writing techniques for = the formation of educational institutions and for subjectivation. That=92s= why the question is, what are the tasks we have to learn in order to = exist in the world of electronic mass media? What means =91Bildung=92 = for us nowadays? GL: There is an =91attention war=92 going on, with debates across = traditional print and broadcast media about the rise in distraction, in = schools, at home. On the street we see people hooked on their smart = phones, multitasking, everywhere they go. What do you make of this? This = is just a heightened sensibility, a fashion, or is there really = something at stake? Would you classify it as petit-bourgeois anxieties? = Loss of attention as a metaphor for threatening poverty and status loss = of the traditional middle class in the West? How do you read the use of = brain research by Nicholas Carr, Frank Schirrmacher and more recently = also the German psychiatrist Manfred Spitzer who came up with a few bold = statement concerning the devastating consequences of computer use for = the (young) human brain. Having read your study one could say: don=92t = worry, nothing new under the sun. But is this the right answer? PL: Your description addresses severe debates. Nothing less than the = future of our Western culture seems to be at stake. Institutions like = the educational systems are under permanent critique, concerning all = levels from primary schools to universities. That=92s why the Pisa = studies have revealed a lot of deficits and have provoked debates on = what kind of education is necessary for our children. On the one hand = it=92s a debate on cultural values, but on the other it=92s a struggle = on power relations. We are living in a society of control, and how to = become a subject and how this subject is related to other subjects in = mediated environments are important questions.=20 A great uncertainty is emerged. That=92s why formulas that promise easy = solutions are highly welcomed. Neurological concepts are often based on = one-sided models concerning the relationship between body and mind, and = they often leave out the role of social and environmental factors. =46rom = historians of science such as Canguilhem and Foucault one can learn that = psychiatrist models of brain defects and mental anomalies not only = mirror social anxieties, but also produce knowledge about what is = defined as normal. And it is up to us as observers of such discourses to = name those anxieties today. Nonetheless, I would not signify distraction = as a metaphor. It is in fact a concrete phase of the body, a state of = the mind. It=92s real. You cannot deal with it when you call it a = disability or a disease and just pop pills or switch off your electronic = devices. =20 GL: Building on Simondon, Bernard Stiegler develops a theory of = attention that might be different from the US-American mainstream = polarity between dotcom utopians and social media pessimists. His = =91pharmacological=92 approach is different, less polemic, in search of = new concepts in order to leave behind the known clich=E9s and = dichotomies. His book Taking Care of Youth and the Generations from 2008 = contains pretty strong warnings about our loss of concentration to read = longer, complicated texts. What do you make of this? PL: Bernard Stiegler=92s approach combines different arguments=96=96the = clash of generations, the rise of marketing and entertainment = industries. I=92m always wondering how easy philosophers like Stiegler = or Christoph T=FCrcke in Germany jump from ancient cultures (the Greeks, = the Romans or=97to name another popular example=97Stone Age populations) = to modern cultures of the 21st century. I take this as suspicious. = Reading as well as writing were, of course, important cultural = techniques over a long period of time=96=96but, both are techniques that = have undertaken several heavy changes in their long taking history, long = before media such as cinema or television have entered the scene. Think = only of the invention of printing, the development of the mass press in = the 18th century or the invention of the typewriter one century later. = It=92s hard to imagine that these epochal events should not have had any = influence on how to learn reading and writing. You read the columns of a = newspaper or a picture book in a different way than the pages of a = printed book filled with characters only. This was common knowledge even = then. Techniques such as a quickly scan and scroll through a text = (=91Querlesen=92) had become widespread, and newspaper layouts support = this kind of reading. The actual hype of a deep-attention-reading is, = seen from a media-archaeological perspective, not simply nostalgic. It = forgets its =91dark side=92 as it was seen in the civil cultures of the = 18th and 19th century, when especially bored middle-class women were = accused of being addicted reading novels and were condemned because of = escaping in exciting dream worlds. Deep concentration was then regarded = as dangerous, because it leads to absentmindedness and even mental = confusion making individuals unusable especially for a capitalist = economy. Civil cultures have an interest to control their populations, = their bodies and desires, for the sake of normalization. In this = perspective, a =91too much=92, of what quality ever that can destabilize = the public order has to be refused.=20 My sneaking suspicion is that Stiegler or T=FCrcke are focussing only to = small cuttings of media history, because their interest is to construct = almost apocalyptic scenarios of a great divide. Not surprisingly T=FCrcke,= in his actual book on hyperactivity, criticizes newspapers for having = reduced the length of articles and at the same time having advanced = number and size of pictures. But other changes are more = important=96=96unnoticed by these philosophers. With the rise of = personal computers and multi-media devices using touch-screens tactility = has become again a major human faculty. Media based on haptic operations = change the interplay of the senses and create new habits=97and insofar = writing and reading have to amplify their dimensions. GL: There is (the New Age cult of) mindfulness. And there is Peter = Sloterdijk. What do you make of such calls to exercise, to save = attention through training? It all boils down to dosage. Do you believe = there is a =91will to entropy=92? Altered states that invite us to enter = unknown spaces? Would it make sense to study another side of the = so-called loss of attention in the drug experiences as described from = Baudelaire and Benjamin to Huxley and J=FCnger? PL: I guess, the training of our senses and the experiments of losing = self-control belong to the same regime of taking care of oneself. It = occurs to me that one major difference between the self-experiments you = name and what I=92ve analyzed is the isolation of the persons = experimenting with drugs to enter altered states of body and mind. One = reason why I=92ve studied not only discourses, but also practices of = distraction was the fact that most of the diversions of urban culture = were built on (and for) a mass audience. To be with unfamiliar others at = the same place and at the same time was an experience, a thrill people = were addicted to. Today other mass entertainments have emerged such as = multiplex-cinemas, public viewings or big sports events, which are, of = course, unthinkable without the rise of mass communication and mass = media like television. That=92s why I=92m not sure if the description = made for instance by Nicholas Carr and Frank Schirrmacher we are living = nowadays under a brutal regime of a cannibalistic monster-machine = nourished by our attention witch is known as personal computer is = telling the whole story.=20 GL: How would you situate your own work inside what is known as German = media theory? History of ideas meets archaeology of knowledge? You have = a strong interest in the medical discourse (which is, again, very strong = these days). Would you say that media steer our perception? PL: Maybe I=92m not the right person answering that question, but I = would like to describe my work as a combination of archaeology of = knowledge and media archaeology. In German media studies the = epistemology and history of media has played a crucial role. Friedrich = Kittler, in the 1980s, has inaugurated a discourse analysis of media = that highlights the importance of the materiality of media, the a priori = of technique and the power of institutions. The main question thereby is = how media constitute what can be known and how media influence the ways = we consider the world. Scholars like Siegfried Zielinski or Wolfgang = Ernst have developed the field of media archaeology further. Recently = interdependencies between media techniques and infrastructures at the = one hand and cultural or body techniques at the other are an important = topic of research, namely by scholars such as Bernhard Siegert (Weimar) = or Erhard Sch=FCttpelz (Siegen). At the same time media philosophers not = only in Germany rethink mediation in terms of triangular relations. In = recent debates questions of media ecology and ontology respectively = mediated modes of existence have gained much attention.=20 My strong interest in the medical discourse derives from the role it = plays for formulations of normality. This is, of course, a Foucaultian = perspective. The distinction between what is regarded as normal or = abnormal behaviour or sane or insane is always a result of cultural = negotiations. I=92m interested in the role mass media play in these = negotiations. Perception, in my point of view, is a relay, and media can = intensify the permeability of it. No more, no less. =20 GL: Seen from other countries and continents Germany is still the = country of Schiller and Goethe, high literature and philosophy. Students = still read tons of thick and complex books, so it seems. You teach in = Weimar and that must certainly be a strange one-off museum experience. = Is there something we can learn from the German education system or are = you as pessimistic as everyone else when it comes to the lack of books = that young people read these days, the decline of the shared canon and = the long-term implications this has for the intellectual life and the = level of thinking and critical reflection? Do you see already see = long-term impacts of the computer and Internet on German theory = production? PL: Weimar is not only the city of Goethe and Schiller. Nietzsche lived = here, and the Bauhaus had its first residence here. And there is = Buchenwald, a concentration camp of the Nazi regime, too. Before I came = to Weimar I was teaching in Vienna. =46rom your point of view it seems = I=92m collecting strange one-off museum experiences. But, one mayor = difference between these university cities (and, by the way, to many = other universities in Germany) is the fact that the Bauhaus-University = of Weimar is a very young university, founded shortly after Germany=92s = reunification. It=92s not a classical alma mater: there is no faculty of = humanities, but faculties of engineering, architecture, design, and = media. The idea is, that theoretical and practical education goes hand = in hand. The curriculum offers students courses where they can train = their skills in photography, film, design or programming. The ability to = develop own solutions is regarded as very important. At the same time = Weimar is a place where a lot of research is going on, where scientists = meet and theoretical debates are initiated. That=92s the intellectual = climate around here.=20 German theory production has an affinity to media archaeology and the = history and philosophy of cultural practices. Friedrich Kittler was = among the first media theorists who thought about the role of the = computer as a super-medium, which is able to incorporate all other = media. Claus Pias and Martin Warnke have just lanced a research group = locating in L=FCneburg investigating the media cultures of computer = simulations and their input for knowledge production. I think the = faculties of reading and writing will be important skills also in the = future, but they have to be advanced by others such as working with data = and their different representations for instance as pictures or = circulating information of any format in order to manage the interplay = of senses in computer-based environments. GL: I want to come back to the Frankfurt School. Did you say that Adorno = is moralistic in his rejection of the media as a light form of dispersed = entertainment? If he would still be alive, do you think he would say the = same of the Internet? I always wondered if there would be more sarcastic = forms of critique, in the tradition of Adorno and others that is less = elitist, less traditional? PL: For Adorno=92s thinking of negativity and the Frankfurt School art = is an autonomous and alternative sphere of society. And it=92s art=92s = alterity and autonomy that is the condition for its power to undermine = the capitalistic order. That=92s why, for these thinkers, it=92s not a = question of morality to reject popular mass media of entertainment, = it=92s, I would say an =82ontological=92 question, because these media = give not room for reflecting the mode of existence in capitalist = society. But Adorno=92s position is not so much definite as it seems at = first sight. I was surprised reading in Dialectics of Enlightment that, = according to Adorno and Horkheimer, a total excess of distraction comes, = in its extremity, close to art. This thought, it occurs to me, resonates = Siegfried Kracauer=92s utopia of distraction of the 1920s dealing with = modern mass media, especially cinema. In this passage of their book, = Adorno and Horkheimer are saying, and that is revolutionary for me, = nothing less than that an accumulation and intensification of = distraction is able to fulfil the task of negation that was originally = dedicated to art, because it alters the state of the subject in the = world completely. With this thought in mind it would be really funny = and, at the end much less elitist, to speculate about what Adorno would = say of the Internet.= # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org