Alexander Bard on Mon, 29 Jun 2015 04:42:20 +0200 (CEST) |
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<nettime> Europe: from bad to worse (should be Greece, from worse to good) |
In that case, why doesn't the ECB and the IMF try to crush the economies of Sweden, Switzerland, Britain and Poland while they are at it since they have all chosen to stay outside the euro? Greece is after all less than 2% of the entire EU economy. In other words, this being Nettime, can we please stay away from the ridiculous non-factual conspiracy theories, blame-games and self-victimisation loops that are the true pathetic characteristics of postmodern politics? The problem with markets is not that they are evil but that they are stupid and blind to the direct effects of their own individual participants. Nothing more, nothing less. Of which the Greek market economy is a perfect example, now that decades of local tax fraud, speculation bubbles and corruption has caught up with it. A traditional Marxist left would of course have chopped off the heads of wealthy Greek tax evaders years ago. But a contemporary postmodern populist "left" blames German working class taxpayers for being nasty to Greek non-taxpayers and then does its best to play the postmodern game of disgracing its leftist as well as rightist allies around Europe by calling for a referendum after a long set deadline, a referendum that could and should have been called for months ago. So why am I not impressed with the analyses of the situation voiced here on the Nettime forum? Why the totally uncalled for alarm bells now? Let Greece leave the euro and see if it can save a new drachma just like Sweden defends its krona, Switzerland its franc, Britain its pound and Poland its zloty and also set its retirement age eight years lower than the EU average as Syrica now insists Greece must. If Greece likes to do so. Why do Nettime members defend Greece stayng in the euro at all costs? In what way would that strengthen Greek or any other democracy? And if Greece can not defend a new drachma, perhaps it should finally deal with its upper class still escaping paying the taxes that other European social democracies manage to force its wealthy to do? Swiss banks are loaded with packed Greek bank accounts. Should not that be the real focus of a proper Marxist analysis here? Simply because Marxism is all about chopping off the right and not the wrong head in the guillotine and that should in this case actually not be a German working class taxpayer but somebody far closer to Athens itself. Like the incredibly wealthy sttill tax-exempt Greek yacht owners on the Aegean islands who Syriza even refuse to force to pay VAT. Or have I missed something you guys know but have not told me yet? Is Syriza Marxist rather than just postmodern media gamers? If so, that has unfortunately surpassed stupid old me completely. All the best intentions Alexander Bard/firmly holding on to Das Kapital rather than Lyotard or Baudrillard here 2015-06-28 12:10 GMT+01:00 <morlockelloi@yahoo.com>: Isn't the biggest fear of all that it won't, and that Greece and Greek will continue to exist in relative order? To ensure that such catastrophe does not happen, chaos must be created by any means. On 6/28/15 1:06 , Felix Stalder wrote: >If Greece is being pushed into the wilderness outside the Eurozone, >it's likely to create economic and social chaos domestically. While # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org