Armin Medosch on Wed, 9 Nov 2016 15:25:17 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Cybernetics and the Pioneers of Computer Art |
dear Thomas, I really hate to say this, because I really respect your work, you are a very good researcher but this piece once more perpetuates the myth of a purely Western computer art and cybernetics. A few years ago this might have been an oversight, one could have said there was not enough information, but now it starts to look like it is done on purpose, or there is an unwillingness to learn that there was a cybernetic movement in the former East, that an absolute hotspot of art, cybernetics and information theory was New Tendencies in Zagreb from 1961 to 1978, whereby in particular in summer 1968 there was an exhibition and symposium in Zagreb on 'computers and visual research' followed by a much larger exhibition and symposium in May 1969 with participation if dozens of artists and in the symposium of, among others, Umberto Eco, artwork by artists such as Gustav Metzger and an outdoor computer controlled 'media facade' by Vladimir Bonacic, all that documented not only in a catalogue of which exists also an international version but in 9 issues of the journal Bit International (which you actually have in your bibliography), of which the first three issues were entirely dedicated to information aesthetics. All this is documented for English readers in the book that was conceived by Darko Fritz and then put together by Margit Rosen under the title "A Little Known Story ...", and now also in my book New Tendencies - Art at the Threshold of the Information Revolution (1961-1978), both books came out at MIT Press and they actually complement each other, one is a document sourcebook, my book a historicial and political contextualisation. In addition to that Monoskop is tirelessly putting out material on art, cybernetics an information aesthetics in the East and new stories are written or wait to be written, such as the amazing Argentinian CAYC group and also new material gets published on the Japanese, south Asian and Eastern European context, see for instance the historical section of the latest issue of Acoustic Space #15 Open Fields ... and this is just what I know off the back of my mind. I don't know who is helped by perpetuating a purely Western centric version of the history of cybernetic art. There is also more work coming out on cybernetics, sans art, in the east, which was a really strong movement among the intelligentsia and had a big impact also on culture via science fiction. Of course you are entitled to hold lectures of any content that you like but maybe give it another title such as "The story of Western cybernetics and Western pioneers of computer art in a Cold War context" or some such thing but please do not claim that these were THE PIONEERS and thus sidelining artists such as Bonacic, Zdenek Sykory, Waldemar Cordeiro and many others. For those interested in that other, a little bit more inclusive story please check out my book https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/new-tendencies kind regards Armin . On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Thomas Dreher <tdreher@onlinehome.de> wrote: > The English translation of my lecture on "Cybernetics and the Pioneers > of Computer Art" (Sprengel Museum Hannover, 16th October 2016) is > online. > URL: http://dreher.netzliteratur.net/4_Medienkunst_Kybernetike.html # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: