Re: <nettime> 'La Casemate', Grenoble FabLab burned down by anti-digital activists

[Brian Holmes <bhcontinentaldrift@gmail.com>]

On 12/17/2017 06:31 PM, Kein wrote:
> Hi Brian! Well I was slightly kidding but more seriously: History suggests it's not a one way street from direct to symbolic action, the traffic can flow both ways.
> Ben

Yeah, that's what I think. Making it flow is pretty important though. 
Grenoble used to be good at that, I don't know these days...

Brian


> > > On 12/17/2017 10:50 AM, Kein wrote:
> > > Quick pt: It's not 'symbolic' if you burn enough infrastructure.
> >
> > Right, then you can kick off a massive military/fascist reaction which isn't symbolic either!
> >
> > Direct action either becomes symbolic, allowing for politics, or it becomes a fight, allowing the stronger force to win. Just a few groups of determined fire-wielding saboteurs would be highly effective in building the police state of which they secretly dream...
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