Re: <nettime> limits of networks...

[Cinegraphic <cinegraphic@gmail.com>]

I don't usually comment, but the issue of networks vs social media is of personal interest. So much if the web is a commercialization of what were originally publuc, open spaces, now rdndered as private property. A parallel could be drawn to the enclosure movement. What lurks in the background is the commercialization of human action and association, not jyst the "maker movement," but all of social relationships. This is the real issue, even surveillance/agnotogy is just symptomatic.

It's striking how these dynamics emerge, create responses and then commercially assimilate them. This valorization seems to me to be the structural driver that's cresting the current discontent.



> On Jul 1, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Kristoffer Gansing <kg@transmediale.de> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Maybe I can take the opportunity to plug in to the running discussions
> by shamelessly plugging the announcement of the next transmediale
> festival which aims to deal exactly with the topics of networks, as it
> appeared here as a recurring common concern.
> https://2020.transmediale.de/festival-2020
> 
> I think its quite interesting how the thread on nettime being in a bad
> shape and the one Rachel O' Dwyer started on net-art is converging
> around questions that have to do with how the limits of networks have
> become more tangible today, technically as well as in the form of
> "network idealism".
> 
> Molly Hankwitz wrote:
> 
>> The question comes up more and more - where is the whole idea of networks
>> that was once? Answer: sorry, social media has everyone blissed out on
>> their own screen.
>> 
>> The great debates that enlivened networks of the 90s, have become muddled
>> to the point that "networks" per se don't seem to carry much weight online
>> - now its the app, its the website - which don't always reflect a living
>> community of net-users as we know...or maybe we are imagining networks
>> differently than before and that does not help. Common interests which
>> drove the formulation of networks and network 'flows' seem to have been
>> replaced by something else. Who is the we of any network now...
> 
> Rachel:
> 
>> Can we still speak about ?tactical media? or ?the exploit?, and if not is
>> this because
>> 
>> a) network activism has transformed so that these older descriptions no
>> longer accurately describe net art and ?hacktivist? practices, or
>> 
>> b) these art practices have stayed much the same, but they are no longer
>> effective in the current political and economic context?
> 
> I would not agree with David Garcia that these meta-discussions is a
> sign of the decline of nettime however, rather that the discussion of
> networked forms seems to be returning at the moment, maybe especially
> also on a list like nettime, because it seems as if it disappeared from
> the big "digitalisation" debates that are now anyway everywhere. (except
> for the breaking up of THE social network) Meanwhile, users are
> returning to smaller networked forms in the form of the fediverse or in
> other intimate constellations taking their cue from safe spaces and
> intersectional practices online, offline or rather in between. Maybe we
> need new ways of modeling networks also beyond the canonical Baran
> diagram of centralized, decentralized and distributed, along with
> nodocentric visualizations that have been so prevalent from the 1990's
> and basically up until today?
> 
> best,
> 
> Kristoffer
> 
> 
> 
> 
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