Re: <nettime> Evo Morales: people of Bolivia are rising up

["frank tigrero" <frank.20.tigrero@xoxy.net>]

You may dump links from "global thinkers" til the end of time, smug in your bad faith arguments about "us vs them," and concern trolling about the minutiae of What Is Government(tm), but the actual *facts* are that the military is ousting an elected official, the "opposition" is using the military to torture mayors of towns, kill protesters and in more prosaic but equally revealing moments, cutting the indigenous flag portion out of the Bolivian flag.

Glad you're on the record as being in favor of a fascist government led by the military - although that makes you no more intelligent or compassionate than most Americans of the 20th and 21st century who believe whatever claptrap about central/south/latin America and their 'irregular democracies', and possess a profound ignorance of history to accompany it.

But sure, Morales built a museum! My gods, what a tyrant.



----- Original message -----
From: "jmp - j.martin.pedersen@gmail.com" <frank.tigrero.2361247f96.j.martin.pedersen#gmail.com@ob.0sg.net>
To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org
Subject: Re: <nettime> Evo Morales: people of Bolivia are rising up
Date: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:24 AM

On 12/11/2019 01:28, frank tigrero wrote:
> Are we really on some MAGA right wing listserv defending the coup? What the hell has happened here....

On the contrary. It appears we are on a black/white (non)thinking list.

Beyond left/right there are at least three more categories of political
agency relevant here:

1: A frustrated people suffering from betrayal, suppression, lack of
food and drink and acting outside of (the constraints of) specific party
political philosophies.
2: Indigenous people and peasants who are neither left nor right, but
not staying home tonight.
3: Anarchists.

It is worrying that the world - *and this list* - has come to this
simplicity of either/or and immediate outrage if a perceived party line
and simple good/bad, us/them dichotomies are not submitted to. In that
sense George Bush continues winning. Us or them.

Then, to be a little more to the actual point: If you lump Zibechi (who
has been reporting on the frontlines of social movements in Latin
America for decades) in with the far right, then you are simply a fool.
If you don't agree with his perspectives, then argue something, though
it is difficult to really argue with what he is reporting, because he is
actually mainly /reporting/ from the streets. If you want to find out
more, see also the work of Silvia Rivera Cusicanqui:
https://globalsocialtheory.org/thinkers/cusicanqui-silvia-rivera/ -

"Bolivian historian and social theorist Silvia Rivera Cusicanqui is
author of the classic work Oppressed But Not Defeated: Peasant Struggles
Among the Aymara and Quechua in Bolivia, and has recently emerged as one
of the country’s foremost critics of President Evo Morales from an
indigenous perspective..":

from:
http://upsidedownworld.org/archives/bolivia/indigenous-anarchist-critique-of-bolivias-indigenous-state-interview-with-silvia-rivera-cusicanqui/

Taking a look at the world, assessing what is going on, is seemingly
beyond ordinary agency these days and everything must, it appears, be
instantly categorisable as good/bad; us/them. Don't think for yourselves
people, my mind is made up and I am right. Now go back to bed (and your
Twitter feed).

Make Socialism Great Again?

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PS: A Bolivian friend just wrote:

"...As the sociologist Silvia Rivera Cusicanqui suggested: Evo Morales
is the Right. He has built a Museum in his town of origin to honour and
celebrate his career. He thinks he has the right to stay there forever.
He is a dangerous megalomaniac. Sounds familiar? Who else in the world
would build a museum to celebrate his ego, who else would think that he
could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and get away with it? Does the name
of any ‘stable genius' come to mind?..."

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