Re: <nettime> The List needs a new Topic

[Dmytri Kleiner <dk@telekommunisten.net>]

On 2021-01-20 09:59, Geert Lovink wrote:

> the authoritian grip of the Xi regime is only further tightening.

I'm really done with this discussion here, but with all due respect, 
comments like these are comically ridiculous. I'm finished trying to 
explain why, I feel I have tried. Anybody that wants to talk further, 
please feel free to reach out.

In the meantime, please see these resources, all of which are published 
by people I know personally and have spent time with, so while I in no 
way speak for them, I have some insight into how they feel and what they 
think:

- https://www.thetricontinental.org
- https://www.newframe.com
- https://peoplesdispatch.org
- https://www.newsclick.in
- https://ruralindiaonline.org

These are my comrades, as much as I would like for all of you to be my 
comrades also, as I have met and worked with so many of you, so long as 
you perpetuate a climate of toxic chauvinism with pompeo-level blanket 
denouncements, you are burning any bridges possible with these 
communities, and this is profoundly disappointing to me.

If there is one thing you are able to hear from my comments, just know 
that denouncements like the one Geert makes above means that the 
communities those publications emerge from will feel unwelcome and 
looked down upon here.

If there is any desire to "extend the nettime project" then this culture 
of intolerance to the views of so many people will not help. For my own 
part, I am so glad that the telekommunisten project, born in the hacker, 
activist and media art circles that many of us share, has led me to be 
in contact with these communities, and I will now go where they lead, 
even if that means, sadly, walking away from some of you.


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Dmytri Kleiner
@dmytri
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