Re: <nettime> Nettime veteran patiently reading the nettime administrivia

[Beatrice Beaubien via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org>]

Hello nettimers,

I too am a long time lurker and would like to be included in the new member list. The nettime postings give me significant insight into how to parse the changes swirling around us.

I very much like Vesna's suggestion of remote meetups and remote hubs. 

I am in Toronto and there is a possibility that there are others in the vicinity who would be interested in in-person events.

Best,

Beatrice (she/her)

> On Jul 14, 2023, at 8:44, Jon Lebkowsky via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm a lurker on the list, perhaps inclined to be more active as global cultural politics grows more heated and weird. I'm making sure here to register my activity so that I won't be excluded.  I currently have presence on Twitter, Bluesky, Mastodon, Micro.blog and a few other less likely candidates, visiting all and looking for the right neighborhood to settle into.  But there's always email...
> 
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 3:44 AM Bruce Sterling via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org> wrote:
> It's rare for me to harangue the nettimers, but I'm very pro-nettime, so I'm going to seize this opportunity to send mail to "ljudmila.org," if only to show that I don't want to be pruned from the list.
> 
> I'm up in the Balkan mountains this season, where I discovered that a shortwave radio that must be 40 years old still functions.  This discovery gave me a lot of the same moral comfort that I derive from nettime.  Short-wave radio, it's not for everybody, but some people have 'em.
> 
> After all, what else is there: Twitter?  Sort of.  Maybe.  For a while.
> 
> "All my followers are accumulated social capital that seem to have been rendered near worthless by algorithmic deflation," the author laments:
> 
> https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2023/7/6/how-to-blow-up-a-timeline
> 
> Bruce Sterling
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2023, at 5:29 PM, John Preston via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Here is a longform summary of the synchronous meeting held today.
>> 
>> There is general agreement to move to servus.at as the new host for the 
>> mailing list. They have about 2000 email accounts and a few hundred mailing
>> lists so there are no concerns about management or scale.
>> 
>> We talked about problems with bots, and they are currently working on a 
>> solution.
>> 
>> After the move, the intention for signup process seems to be to keep it the 
>> same as it is now: users have to confirm their email via a link, and then be 
>> manually approved by a moderator. We think this is currently scalable, effective
>> for managing spam, and gives mod team a feel for "who's coming and going", which
>> is nice to know.
>> 
>> We expect the move to take a couple of weeks, and there was some discussion 
>> about when is a good time to do this, given it's summer now. Eventually the 
>> archive and website will move as well, but probably that will happen after the 
>> new list is established.
>> 
>> An initial pool of new moderators is now being formed and I think people will 
>> meet again soon to organise this. I think Jordan, Christian, and Menno expressed
>> interest in joining the new mod squad.
>> 
>> We also talked about pruning the subscriber list and figuring out how best to
>> coordinate the move. This is an open question for the mod team to figure out 
>> what to do, but there were suggestions of using the invitation function on the 
>> new list to send out invites to everyone with activity in the last year, as a 
>> way to make sure the most active members are able to migrate effectively, and 
>> find a balance with just resubscribing lots of people who maybe don't want to 
>> be on the list.
>> 
>> There was brief discussion about using the nettime.org domain name for the 
>> mailing list, and this is still an open question. Ted would like to maintain 
>> ownership for now and act as a guarantor, since it also points to other services
>> like our website and the Mastodon instance [1]. Overall there did not seem to 
>> be much concern either way in terms of the mailing list, as we expect host 
>> moves to be few and far between.
>> 
>> We also talked about the role of moderation on the list, and making sure this is
>> also about creating energy in the list, and bringing new people into the space.
>> Ted pointed out that diversity is an issue for nettime, as the homogeneity has 
>> both allowed the list to last for a long time, but also caused it to "ossify". 
>> 
>> Vesna had some good suggestions for organising small meetups and remote hubs, 
>> and we talked about arranging meetings at in person events like Ars Electronica
>> and Transmediale. Also we said these should be publicised so we are making 
>> nettime an open space that new people can get involved in, regardless of if they
>> like mailing lists or want to be part of the list.
>> 
>> I also raised the idea of doing more events on-list and off-list, such as a 
>> 'show and tell' thread where people can just talk about what they're working on 
>> at the moment, or having coffee calls where people can have a chat and get to 
>> know other people in the community. Someone also mentioned the idea of inviting 
>> people not on the list to write guest posts, which I like because it grows the
>> community and allows us to explore the use of a mailing list as a publication 
>> platform as well as just a space for connecting and discussing.
>> 
>> Probably there is a bunch of stuff I missed because I got distracted halfway 
>> through, and then had to leave early, but I hope this is a useful summary for 
>> the list! ❤
>> 
>> [1] I actually missed that we have a Mastodon instance! It's at 
>> <https://tldr.nettime.org/> if anyone is interested 🙂
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> John (they/them)
>> 
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