Juergen Fenn via Nettime-tmp on Sat, 15 Jul 2023 23:15:06 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Pruning and gardening |
Paul, thanks for elaborating on your plans. I'm also quite grateful that there will still be a Nettime-l in the future which I have been lurking, or even studying, and, if time permits, taking part for some 20 years. I also second that you please keep the existing community together, as this is a time of falling apart rather than building or re-building social structures. If you think there is anything I can do to help Nettime carry on would you please let me know. Best, Jürgen. -- Jürgen Fenn, Neu-Isenburg http://juergenfenn.de/ Am 15.07.23 um 03:33 Uhr schrieb paul van der walt via Nettime-tmp: > Hey all, > > I wanted to reassure folks - tl;dr: if you're receiving this email, > you'll receive "new nettime" emails! :) > > We (and please correct me if i'm misrepresenting things, other mods) > have no intention of dropping folks off the list. I'd like to clarify > what the intended course of action is: > > * add all current subscribers of nettime-tmp to nettime-l when it's ready, > > * send out an announcement with the new list details, > > * try to find folks we might've missed, and subscribe them, too <-- > this one deserves some explanation. > > From what i understand Felix explained, the reason we don't have a > "canonical, full" list of nettime subscribers, is because due to spam > and delivery issues over the course of time, Mailman will have > auto-unsubscribed people in some circumstances. These recipients will > necessarily have been missed when instantiating nettime-tmp, and we want > to at least make an effort to try and figure out who might've been > unsubscribed in this fashion. I'm hoping there might be logs, if not, > i'm thinking that scouring the archives of the past year or two might be > another source of email addresses. The risk there of course is that we > might pick up addresses of folks who have purposely unsubscribed, and > might perceive it as "spammy" if we resubscribed them. But such is > life, and i guess it's the best we can do in the circumstances. > > But rest assured, there are no plans to "prune" folks for inactivity. > Lurking is acceptable and welcome - i know i did it for a while! :) > > And as an aside, i did want to say that it's heart-warming to see folks > coming out of the woodwork expressing enthusiasm to continue receiving > nettime-l, even if not everybody has time or inclination to contribute. > I also perceive a shift in that it seems lately we're allowing a lot of > space for the "human" side of nettime -- expressing that we value it, > that we value the connections made through it, etc. I think that's > great. At one point someone (was it Felix or Menno?) said that nettime > had a bit of a forbidding "academic" aura, which i can understand. My > personal feeling is that being more free in our "meta-conversation" for > want of a better term, actually goes a fair way to reestablishing the > humanity of this community's participants. > > Thanks everyone, keep well, > > p. > > PS: I'm based in Naarm Melbourne, Australia and am always happy for a > coffee catchup! > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: > https://mail.ljudmila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-tmp > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: https://mail.ljudmila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-tmp # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: