Re: <nettime> Gaza: How many people (left)?

[Noam Knoller via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>]

As of 6 months ago, at least 100,000 have left through Egypt (
https://www.refugeesinternational.org/perspectives-and-commentaries/its-time-to-help-palestinians-left-behind-in-egypt/),
mostly those who could afford to pay their way out of the strip or had the
necessary connections to secure safe passage. The number is likely higher
because some of those who have left to Egypt were then able to proceed to
3rd countries. Others were airlifted in medical evacuations carried out by
Jordan and some of the gulf states - but those are much smaller numbers.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, 15:07 Patrice Riemens via nettime-l, <
nettime-l@lists.nettime.org> wrote:

>
> Hola Aloha,
>
> A fascinating - excusez le mot - item in our favourite 'the devil is in
> the detail' department is the pronouncement by Trump about all current
> inhabitants of Gaza to be 'cleared out'. 'How many people?' he was asked.
> His casual reply was '1,7 1,8 million'. This prompted a few commentators to
> wonder "how did he know?". Even more hallucinatory Trumpian statements on
> Gaza have eclipsed this very relevant question in the meanwhile. Yet by
> semi-official count the Gaza strip had 2,2 to 2,3 milion inhabitants before
> the fatidic 7 October 2023. According to the Gaza health authorities, close
> to 50.000 people have since perished in the violence pepetrated by Israel's
> armed forces, with a further minimum of 10.000 presumably burried under the
> ruins. Experts however, have estimated a far larger number of deaths
> directly imputable to the war, in terms of otherwise avoidable illnesses,
> lack of care for the sicks, invalids and wounded, besides hunger and
> hypothermia. This results in appraisals ran
>  ging from a couple to five or six hunderd thousands of additional
> victims. Yet these are indenpendent, unofficial projections. So does Trump
> knows what we don't?
>
> If people in Gza end up moved out into Egypt and Jordan - with the West
> Bank Palestinians following suit, as is the dearest wish of the extreme
> right mainstream in Israel, as well as most likely an item in Trump's
> not-so-hidden agenda, West Asia is ripe for explosion. But Trump couldn't
> care less. We really have a problem here. A problem of the sort 'that if
> you have a solution for the problem, it means you're not understanding the
> problem'.
>
> Cheers to all, and keep your seat belt fastened!
> p+2D!
>
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