<nettime> Re: Academic Sleuth thread

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 02:40:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Alan Myouka Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com>
To: McKenzie Wark <mwark@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au>
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Subject: Re: <nettime> Academic Paper Sloth
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"The whole idea of the academy is to be untimely, to ride out market
trends, to make decisions about what matters on more slow moving
criteria."


I think this is quite a problematic statement. In fact there is no
singular "idea" of the academy, but competing strategies, institutions,
and agents of filtering. There is also no guarantee that the academy
itself doesn't set market trends or respond to them. In fact, acadmeis
have their own agends, which are often highly conservative and as corrupt
as the rest of the society, by any measure. I detect a note of conno-
soieurship here - and if the Net operated with such stilted slowness, you
wouldn't find linux out there today, much less perl, apache, or any of the
other systems which are somewhat dispersed. I assume there are also
literary works, philosophical works, what have you, written under the same
types of circumstances.

The academy is the arbiter of the academy. Bourdieu speaks of its prac-
tices, dispersions, and so forth - so did Regis Debres. I would hesitate
to grant it either "authenticity" or value-neutral behavior.

Alan


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From: McKenzie Wark <mwark@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:34:55 +1100 (EST)
To: Alan Myouka Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com>
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Subject: Re: <nettime> Academic Paper Sloth
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I completely agree with Alan Sondheim's remarks about
'academic sloth'. Which suggests to me that he has not
quite understood my original argument.

k

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"We no longer have roots, we have aerials."
http://www.mcs.mq.edu.au/~mwark
 -- McKenzie Wark


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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 04:59:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: <nettime> Academic Paper Sloth
From: cisler <cisler@inreach.com>
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A very interesting organization that has been dealing with the issues of
electronic publishing (and archiving) is the Coalition for Networked
Information which formed about the same time (and with as large a budget) as
the Electronic Frontier Foundation.  In their quiet way, CNI has done a
great deal in the way of thoughtful discourse, pilot projects, and bringing
together various parties--without their being a need for choke chains to
keep them from attacking each other.  <www.cni.org>

Steve Cisler
home.inreach.com/cisler



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