Re: [oldboys] Feminism today

["tracy ann essoglou" <t_esso@hotmail.com>]

Greetings one and all from an itinerent participant in OBN...

I have been getting swamped with emails and as much as i like seeing some of 
the inner workings of OBN its flooding my mail box!

MORE IMPORTANT HOWEVER...

I think we really need to check ourselves a bit. On the first order if Greer 
was asked if fems hads betrayed fems... "she" did not use the word the 
interviewer seems to have introduced the term. First rule of media never 
follow the lead of the interviewer not as guest nor as listener!!!!! As a 
significant player in WAC's (the once slightly infamous and pretty damn 
successful WOmens Action Coalition-- New York and beyond 1992-1994 -- 
archived in the NY Public Library Activist Section) Media Committee I am 
regularly disturbed by what I see and hear within the 'feminist community' 
[a] a sorely underdeveloped sense of media tactics, strategies and 
problematics, [b] how we are so ready to eat each other alive...

I would urge restraint and critical thinking. From Sadie Plant to Germaine 
Greer, to Cornelia and the Biennale event debate, yes even to Andrea Dworkin 
and Katherine MacKinnon... we trounce on one another with a vitrolic need to 
be... and this being is more often juxtaposed to another's being!? I urge 
anyone and everyone to (re)read Trinh T. Min-ha on being special p86 in 
Woman Native Other.

Our need to be is real enough and certainly the terms of engagement at the 
proverbial top of the food chain is desperate and divisive enough but isnt 
this precisely the reason for engndering a feminist praxis of careful 
reading/listening astute criticism. What else can we model as multiplicity 
of moments, voices, practices? Asserting the one over the other is hardly 
new, inventive or interesting. I think if we believe in information as any 
kind of liberatory phenomenon then we need to remember its constraints (ie 
structures and distributions via media, net, etc) and its infinitude. There 
are many doors that can be left open at the level at the level of 
information, communication speech (this is in fact the very basis of anti 
censorship thinking). Of course practically speaking at the point of 
deciding to take action things do become more stridently 'either/or.' And we 
could discuss this at length for I think we have as yet to mature into an 
understanding and a practive of activism vis-a-vis our new communications 
technologies (including the tv which is not so new but still we see and hear 
how the 'dis-embodied' becomes rumor becomes condemnation from afar...

"rush slowly"

Tracy
Tracy Ann Essoglou
TAE / SituationDesign
t_esso@hotmail.com





----Original Message Follows----
From: Cornelia Sollfrank <cornelia@snafu.de>
Reply-To: oldboys@lists.ccc.de
To: oldboys@lists.ccc.de
Subject: Re: [oldboys] Feminism today
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:02:02 +0100

i guess she said "betrayed"

 >    what?
 >
 >   ----- Original Message -----    From:    
<mailto:LockSocrates@aol.com>LockSocrates@aol.com    To: 
<mailto:oldboys@lists.ccc.de>oldboys@lists.ccc.de    Sent: Wednesday, July 
04, 2001 10:41    PM   Subject: [oldboys] Feminism today
 >The other day on Radio    4,  on the program Any Answers, Germaine Greer 
was
 >asked whether she    thought that feminists today had betrayed the 
feminist
 >ideals of the    1960s...guess what she replied...


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