matze.schmidt on 10 Feb 2001 11:58:17 -0000 |
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le mediatrans.19 sa. 10022001 12:33 CET n0name live! from home and transmediale.01 (http://www.transmediale.de), Berlin, Germany 4 to 11 February 2001 At 06:59 09.02.01 -0800, normanke wrote: >> some people get information from the streets, >> but is it a medium? would it be helpfull to >> define e.g. the subway as a medium? to see >> the street as a new medium would help to end >> the categorial distinction between the >> immaterial (media) and the physis. street >> would never be a dead medium (Bruce >> Sterling) just it's form <- old discussion. > >read "understanding media: the extensions of man" by >marshall mcluhan. there is a chapter entitled "roads >and paper routes" which discusses the mediated nature >of the road -- the street. yes and no! because mcluhan, when he spoke about media, he thought of an extension of man (the prothesis, like a artificial limb), that means he could not imagine a social thing in a realm outer mankind but in contact with and contrast to mankind (?). i would propose: don't see the objective world as a mediated space in the meaning of manipulating and simulation, but as a medial space which one must design and which is designing itself all the time. so the option would be: the street as a space which x and y and z and you not just the expert can form, shape, arrange, organize, program. mcluhan's street is possibly just another massmedium. the steet as a new medium would transform it into a potential aim for investment in channels for 'real' social participation: give all people without finance power back the space they need and don't wonder if they take it. the following is clear for years now: this would mean first: a laptop and for everyone + access to real space and virtual space for free and the right to publish in all media channels, tv, radio, advertising, internet ("our medium is every wall", the una-bomber problem). but the logic most governments, artists and companies follow is that the media field must be formed by professionals (they are inscribing their ideology) and they overlook, that this field is already formed by everyone, but not adequate. so it is a problem of ethics, will and authority. matze schmidt ---------------------------------------------------------- # rohrpost -- deutschsprachige Mailingliste fuer Medien- und Netzkultur # Info: majordomo@mikrolisten.de; msg: info rohrpost # kommerzielle Verwertung nur mit Erlaubnis der AutorInnen # Entsubskribieren: majordomo@mikrolisten.de, msg: unsubscribe rohrpost # Kontakt: owner-rohrpost@mikrolisten.de -- http://www.mikro.org/rohrpost